From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. One question sticking to the government interference and coverup, with the deletion of a photo (nr, 531?) scary The theories go from accident to a crime to a combination of both. I have one questions for you, regarding the 90 photos taken at night: if these were not taken by one of the girls in an attempt to provide light or whatever, what possible purpose could anyone else, such as an attacker, have in taking these photos? I agree that her hands look like they are over head. By April 6, 2014, theparents of both women grew frantic andflew to Panama with detectives from the Netherlands. Keep the ideas flowing guys. "I saw a child get dragged down the river when he let go of his parents' hands. Why would they remove them? This was a real disappointment, the entry continued. There is an international consortium working behind the scenes to slowly and methodically continue the investigation. Maybe its just pareidolia, but i think its a manmade object. Well done Chris on highlighting the strangeness of this place. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been . I havent spotted the finger with the silver ring in photo IMG_0580 thats the name of the hair photo, and in the night photos you found out that there are not one but two individuals that are of native origin nonetheless, which specific photos led you to that conclusion? What I have not found is concrete evidence of where they went. They may not have even know what they were doing, taking pictures, if they werent familiar with technology, and tossed the phone again at some point for the girls to grab to attempt the emergency calls and taken it back at some point after. They decided to enter the jungle, but they failed to mark their entry point into the jungle with a stack of rocks or some such marking. David Lee Thomas Bass - Facts About the Musician. Both were never seen again, The Sun reports. This photo of Kris Kremers is identified as Photo 505. Poor investigations and low standards are very common in these under-developed countries. And more to the right of the insignia, is that water, an underground river maybe, there is like a light at the end. Its our fingerprints, the police say. Debra Ann Velleman, 70, of Waukesha, Wisconsin, and Sue Borries, 57, of Teutopolis, Illinois, both retired public school teachers, were part of a community of snowbirds and expats living in the area of Chame, Panama. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. So easily noticeable. There are plenty of reasonable explanations for why someone would have returned the phones and the backpack. Or another type of colorful animal found in the jungle? Did they each have a camera or only Lisanne? The photos showed the girls belongings spread out on rocks, along with plastic bags and candy wrappers, mounds of dirt, and a mirror. as soon as u see 1 photoshopped pic u know something is wrong,, the bag turned up to keep the police from searching the jungle. Was it taken on the afternoon of April 1st before their first distress call? Search shoe with foot in it found. It is cooler at those altitudes but also inside the forest it will be more humid. You cant see any blue sky behind the branches and the rock is in bright sunlight which bleaches out the colour. How many tourists go to Australia? Also, #509 was deleted after all of the other photos were taken, which means someone went back and deleted it after all of the nighttime photos were taken. The white and red object on the left looks slightly like a cows head and what I took to be Kriss tousled hair on the left of her head now looks like the thumb and fore finger of her left hand pointing to the inside of the hut. I suspect the timestamps on some images are incorrect. The 2020 cristian massacre was committed by a couple of men who were definitively altered in their state and heard voices etc. IF there was a dog with them why then did they not photograph it? They added a caution sign after their disappearance for this exact reason. But someone may not like it, so I hope that you will be very carefull! I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. So, if the dog went on the hike with the girls, its most likely that the owners would not have known that fact. Websites/blogs speculate about why, but nothing has been confirmed. I know AMAZING explanition it is sad they are dead but my friend said they might be faking and Lisanne froon and kris kremer ate people to fake their bones but I think my friend is wrong. We can only speculate without more evidence of that. Feel free to comment again or send me an email. Others suggested neitherFroonnor Kremerstook those photos; they believesomeone abducted the women. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. Jane, Recently I have been reading that it is not unusual for people that hike or run in dangerous places and go missing that a shoe with a foot is found. I agree w rope around waste thst wasnt there before, hair is completely down Aldo, shes in distree. Hi Chris, good question. I cant say what it is, but it looks similar to an object, that can be seen in some of the nighttime photos, like in this one here. Hi JW, yes I agree with you about many things. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. This connected callwas stable for roughly two seconds. Thanks for pointing this out. Patients often tell our staff about finding the corpses of people who have suffered fatal falls or drowned in swollen rivers. Hi Joseph, Thanks for your comment. Its sad because Panama is a beautiful country with a lot of wonderful people. Bizarre Stories About Tourists Who Went Missing Far From Home These are more unanswered questions that we may never know. They were not lost. The gangs in Panama are much smaller, usually consisting of between 5 and 30 people. But others have suggested the chilling photos might have been taken by someone else after killing the girls. . In which photos? So this photo may possibly offer more insight into the story. As for the wrong password entry. L&K photographed every part of the walk from the farm up to the summit; dog appears in none of their photos. People have been there. Europe is the world . And that looks to be a stocker style stand. This could be a very handy skill to our team. The photo to me appears that she simply is bending over to get the sun out of her eyes, with her right hand help up to shield the sun. Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall,or suffer other fatalaccidents while traveling-this could've happened to these women as well. The jungle was searched for another ten days with the help of the cops from the Netherlands - but there was no sign of the girls. And if suspects were clicking photos, and knew how to operate a smartphone, they would not return the phones. In this one its clear that Kris has her hand up, closed eyes and stuck out tongue. Does anyone else see what looks like the back of someones head, their bare back and arm inside the manmade circular object? I implore those who are intrigued by this to read his books. Thanks, John. The land behind her is definitely at a higher level and could be rock. Also, I do not know about the girls living situation and the relationship between the girls and the owner. Its thought that Kremers and Froon were exploring nature without anyone else around. A decade under Maduro, migration marks Venezuelans' lives "This is a nightmare with 1,001 demons," says 40-year-old Oscar, who is from Colombia but was living in Bolivia. Cats are often seen as pests and scavengers which is unfortunately why many people use poison to kill local cats. From January to October, 86 Navajo men and women have gone missing nationwide, said Meskee Yanabah Yatsayte, a missing-persons advocate for . In Latin America, it is as common as drinking coffee. One thing which confused me were the bras the smaller one looks more like a bikini top. Kris was not happy with the situation and was just going along and not looking too cheerful in the pictures. Was the reception that bad in those locations? We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. The families are now working on having the womens' remains brought back to the U.S., he said. Take care. Do u know if this particular spot was apart of the trail they went on? From 508 onward. Maybe a struggle or fall? The black twigs can be seen growing up, as all vegetation/trees do to harness the sun, but the ones above her are clearly bent in a horizontal and parallel formation. Missing Lynn Haven juveniles. Slight left and up from the girl. (From our perspective to the right of her directly in front of her feet about waist high). And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. That way, no downloads are necessary. An explosion in tourism has saved Iceland's economy. As well as lots of other things It shows her right arm more clearly and it looks as though there is something square where you would expect her right elbow to be strange. If the Calderas photo is genuine as you believe, then I sadly think the two girls were killed shortly after by the two young men (and possibly the taxi driver), and the police knew and bumped the lot off. Keep in mind, these are my observations Ive made since moving from the USA. The indigenous locals that were committing the sacrifices were influenced by a villager that had recently travelled abroad and returned to his village with extremist Christian views. If its part of the trail where people walk all the time I dont think something is up with this place. It is the poor color quality of the photograph with oversaturated reds that has people thinking they are seeing skulls and carcasses. I agree. Occums razor. I think that she has her hand to her ear,she looks like she is trying to hear what someone is saying,and also,the light is in her eyes;.It looks like she has twisted herself around in doing so. Theres not a lot of information about the gangs in the Boquete area. And two months later, a pelvic bone and a foot - still inside a boot - were found in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. One day in June, the tribespeople bring him what he wants; The backpacks and the bodies. 3. I think in the original photo she is putting on her backpack, stretching her arm and back, and the backpack has been airbrushed out because of course she didnt take that with her. Foul play is very likely. she does see something disgusting. There are no public statistics. When neither Froonnor Kremers turned up, the community decided to wait until the next day to contact authorities. Perhaps the photos served astrail markersto help the young women find their way around or back to therescuers. Its almost as if Kris is in the midst of turning back around at the moment this photo is taken, due to the foliage becoming too dense to proceed any further. In fact, its probable to some degree. Most dog owners here do not use a leash when walking their dogs. Theres no denying that the face looks skewed and mask like. I think your initial analysis of the photo is spot on. I look forward to learning more and you do valuable humane work helping other young adventurers. incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. The FBI and others have continuously tried to stonewall him from publicly making these cases and their bizarre circumstances publicly known. If a psychic reading leads to some legitimate form of tangible evidence and made public, then thats excellent, but otherwise I think its mostly a distraction. Hey Im not sure if someone already pointed it out but does everyone see the orange drawing on the bottom right? I think its very possible that someone was with them or joined them along the way at some point. This is the reason that police, journalists and military personnel often disappear and governments struggle to combat crime, not to mention corruption within law enforcement itself. But dogs in Latin America tend to roam around and go wherever they want theyre very free here. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. There is an illustration drawn on Kriss back in the hair photo. He threatened them with a machete, and led them to a sacrificial alter. You see the pattern to the left and right of her arm. Might look harmless and untouched which is why she is standing so close but then she is either caught or trapped in a booby trap lol. The 29-year-old from Stockport vanished on 14 August near a beauty spot in Panama. Both of these photos were photoshopped! Someone was with the girls when the two photos of them were taken on the Pianista summit. Then I downloaded the photo and opened it up in my graphics editor. Tony and Debra Velleman are pictured in an undated image. This is something I will surely investigate more and write about in the future. The dog found his way home. https://photos.app.goo.gl/sLXepriuWAxz8t1R9 EERIE photos discovered on a camera belonging to two missing hikers revealed their mysterious final moments before both girls vanished in the jungle in Panama. For what reason? Sixty percent of these deaths were documented on the border between Mexico and the United . All facts are not available in this case. God only knows how many people theyve done this to in the last decade. Hi Susan, those are all possibilities. Bringing justice to assailants that harm tourists is very often not a top priority, and it shows through the number of botched investigations. Its texture and color seemingly resembles the red bag tied to the SOS stick on the rock later on, imo. Where is YNW Melly? However, amiscommunication led to them arriving in Boquete too early for their program, which Kremersnoted was "rude and not at all friendly" in a diary entry. Panamanian screwed up the investigation monumentally, but I would think that the private detectives followed up all the leads: after all, they were getting paid a lot of money for it. A disturbing set of photographs are at the center of a mystery of the disappearance and death of two young women in Panama and local authorities are currently bewildered by a conspicuously missing photo file on their SD card. If the dog was with them, we cannot know for how long, nor why the dog left the girls. i found it hard to understand and pickup any of the highlighted objects.i grew up in a tropical country and spent a lot of my childhood exploring woods and secondary jungles around my home with my friendsthe way i see it is that the girl have encountered a thick unpenetrable undergrowth at the end of some sort of a gorge.maybe in an effort to find a way through or out of it.when youre at ground level in a jungle its just a green world and colour hues jumbled up in some sort of a mess.and after a while you started noticing odds shapes n colours through the leavesoccassinally there will be thrash thrown around.just my thoughts. Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. If Kris were injured and they couldnt use the phone, then why didnt Lisanne go get help? They were friends from college, and were roommates then, so Lisanne had to have known Kris password as her best friend. The picture just before this one appears to be higher in elevation, meaning that from the direction they were coming, a pit trap being place around this area could/would be ideal. Should have read this before I commented lol. I dont know what Chris means by this, but at first I thought it was a wooden post sticking up from the ground and painted white at the top. Two intelligent girls could not be veering off course to this dense vegetation on their own accord. Hi Chris, i uploaded the photo to show what i see. Most of the pictures taken on April 8 are of complete darkness while some show the jungle floor, but two pictures are alarming: one is a picture of some of the girls belongings on a rock, and the other shows the back of Kremerss head with what appears to be a bloodstain in her hair. January 4, 2023. Perhaps the owner had an underlying influence/incentive to express conviction in his or her statement about the dog. It could be that the taxi driver couldve called someone and given them a heads up that two beautiful young ladies had just headed up the Pianista alone. According the guidance given to the US Embassy, immigration officials will require tourists who leave the country to stay a minimum of 30 days outside of the country before reentering. The arbitrary pictures looked focused as if steady hands took the shots, suggesting they were intentional. All comments are held for moderation prior to being published. . It took us quite some time to get there, the authors explain to The Daily Beast. They had planned a trip in the forest the next day, on April 2nd, with a local guide. But by April 6, the girls were still missing. We usually permit our commenters to publish links to external material, and you are welcome to do the same. They place the evidence where it can be found, brining the matter to a close. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story. In Latin America, gangs, cartels and human traffickers work very effectively in unison to carry out organized crime. Like so many other people I really, really wish we could find the answers to this mystery. Trust me, I prefer to take the easiest explanation too. Even if that had happened, the skeleton would have been more intact and scratch marks would have been found on the bones. I just find it strange that no video diary or fotos of each other made after 508. Therefore we cannot conclude that a dog was even with them. Perhaps that is where this photo was taken and a search should be done there. I really hope the girls rest in peace and that nobody goes through this ever. Again, I stress that these kind of murder cases are frequently shut down by the media of the country at the direction of the government. These were of seemingly random objects, like a stick with plastic sticking to it, as well as scenes of foliage, canyons, anda bridge. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death.Jim. Government corruption is the core of the problem. The day before theguided tour, however, they decided to explore the area surrounding the activeBarVolcano towards the Continental Divide. The theories Ive read seem too far-fetched to be believable. Even on my iPhone I could make it big enough to see odd things in the pic. Those two women were wearing very little clothing to be entering bush/jungle, there is no way that theyd easily make their way through vegetation, and, as they were clearly intelligent, why would they voluntarily just walk into dense bush? Almost like some picture had been there and this posted over or just strange, almost satanic looking things. It is the morning of April 8th. Their bodies were located after more than 690 hours of searching. And one of the images chillingly showed the back of Kris' head with what some sleuthes believe is blood leaking from her temple. Tourists are usually only targeted when something goes wrong or someone has a specific personal problem with foreigners or a subset of foreigners. The overriding input is human. This story and all the bizarre features surrounding it as strange as they are, are actually very much similar to the thousands that have been put together by former cop and forest ranger David Pauladis series of books Missing 411. The internet does not have the most crucial information about the case. Hi Chris, Very interested in your website! If one or both of the phones were missing, it would have generated more questions. It is high noon and they have no way of telling which direction to go. I find it really creepy, but maybe Im looking at it wrong due to shadows and light. Another case that comes to mind is the case of Holger Hagenbusch: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/holger-hagenbusch-a-disturbing-murder-and-exposed-coverup-in-mexico/. These are all similar in so many of the cases in his Missing 411 series. I do believe that this appears to be some sort of structure though, it does seem like some vines / branches have been woven together to form some sort of hut and even the AI enhancement would not make the blue appear on the floor so distinctly, the color and look almost reminds me of a scrap of denim like material? This level of negligence and irresponsibility would be considered criminal in a developed country. Once you see it, you cannot unsee see it. Im curious. One indication is that I cannot see the shoulder strap of her top that is obscured by her white/fair forearm. I cant explain the calls or photos or intact skin that was found. It was the last time anyone saw the women alive. Hi, do you know when and where this book will be available? Before you even pointed out the manmade ceiling structure I noticed that. There is much speculation about the night time fotos made using the Cannon. Much, much more revealing. At this point I have to agree with him, and I think its likely the trail guide and some men they met were somehow involved. That is the big picture of this case. It appears to me that Kris has her right arm to her right temple and you can see part of her left elbow. I am not an investigator but I find it very strange that there were no witnesses found either tourists or locals on the trail. The backpack contained two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, two bras, a water bottle - and importantly, Lisanne's passport. Where are those Pings? Thank you for reading. Dog owners here are not mindful of where their dog goes the owners are tending to their own life: working, raising children, running a business, or resting during the hot days. Could the red object be a bird? There was no signal!! You ask good questions. Take care if you do go over there. Any idea of the exact location where this picture is taken? A man and a woman. Im curious to know if they had a camera why wouldnt they make a final message for family telling us and them what happened? Jalisco authorities have launched an investigation in connection with the enforced disappearance of four tourists. A year later, two tourists following the same trail are robbed at gunpoint. All very different from the happy silly girlie pictures at the beginning. The grimace on Kris face is because she is in pain. So if you look behind her bottom theres a patch of light which is the light at the other end of this tunnel and shes holding her right hand up to her face to sweep back a piece of hair. Ive already researched a lot about the local conditions: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon-panama-bleached-bones/. For other inquiries, Contact Us. Minha Querida menina. Why go to another country to hike when America and other safer countrys have plenty of hiking places ? There are dead animals and skeletons strewn all across the ground. WHY? The deaths of more than 4,680 people have been documented during migration in Asia since 2014, often linked to the exodus of the Rohingya from Myanmar. Sure, anyone can do these things with a computer and specialized knowledge but with this level of competence? And if there would be any clue in them that the girls were hurt intentionally, the parents would not stop being vocal about it. Hi Anna, yes, Im aware of that and thank you for shedding light on that for other readers. I also think those girls probably already perished before the dates on those daytime photos. Especially the beams and details, and the cave behind her. No Chris, I assure you, police investigations are routinely botched like this in the third world. Likelihood the predator will strike again: 99.9% unless predator has died. The bag contained her camera as well as two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, Froons passport, a water bottle, two bras, and both womens phones. if both then was the other found in their room? December 20, 2022. Kris and Lisanne's families decided to fly out to Panama and bring Dutch detectives with them. A group of tourists have gone missing in an infamous Russian mountain pass where nine people died under mysterious circumstances more than 60 years ago. Cheers. Theyve been promised much if they deliver Feliciano hard evidence of the girls death. I wonder if the two red objects are flowers? Do we know who owned the dog named Blue (aka Azul). I know if I was hiking and wandering in the jungle (and presumably possibly lost although not quite realizing this at this point), I would be curious about a manmade structure like this. I agree. All of this leads to resentment and frustration, which results in higher crime rates. I suspect the food may have been left with them when they were abandoned by drug traffickers (who initially abducted them on April 1st) after Kris was hurt crossing the monkey bridge. I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. Let me know about your opinion heres the link https://youtu.be/4wqUCG5bxns loads of greetings Mel. Gang initiation rights are unknown these small gangs dont have an official policy as you might see with the larger gangs its usually just do as we say and well protect you. However, if Continuous mode was in use then even if 509 was deleted, the next image will be 510. However, with the high resolution photo, you can more clearly see an organized structure over her head. https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/kremers-froon/kris-gully-3composite.jpg. However, on closer inspection you can see that the left hand side of the post is really a vine or root hanging straight down and the white at the top is a patch of light in the background, as if there was a small narrow window in the bank Through which the sun is shining and it also looks as though someone is looking through it at Kris. In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought.